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A friend asked this good question:
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Bhante does physical matter actually exist, when not observed by the mind?

Answer:
'Matter' can only be perceived by mind. Matter without mind involved is thus a dogmatic belief,
an
idea, an incomplete & unverifiable view philosophically called Naïve realism, Materialism or
simple Physicalism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naive_realism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materialism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physicalism
However the Buddhist knows that the physical world 'out there' is only an internal mental
representation
! The Buddha thus said:
"This World both Begins and Ends within this 2 fathom frame of bones..." SN I 62
"The ALL is thereby actually just a sensed & experienced representation..." SN IV 15
"When consciousness stops then solidity, fluidity, heat and motion also ceases without trace..."

It does therefore not give any rational meaning to speak of a world not observed by mind,
since any 'real=empirical=not hypothetical world' has to be verified by the observing mind!
When we speak about a 'material world', what really is present and real, right there and then,
is
a duality of a mental mind observing a physical object. That is:
Consciousness & it's object!
These two = mind-matter = nama-rupa are utterly inseparable...!
http://what-buddha-said.net/drops/Out_in.htm
http://what-buddha-said.net/drops/V/The_Fact_of_No-Self_Anatta.htm


Interestingly is this fact supported by orthodox contemporary Quantum-Mechanics
which rejects the principle of a “local reality” 'out there' independent of observation:


The False Principle of local reality:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_locality
The Fact of Non-locality:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_nonlocality


Non-locality: Stapp on Implications of the Bell Experiment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFkaGlrBJR8&NR=1

The Non-Local Universe: The New Physics and Matters of the Mind.
By: Robert Nadeau, Menas Kafatos


http://www.amazon.com/Non-Local-Universe-Physics-Matters-Mind/dp/0195144082

Assuming the existence and properties of objects, before they have been observed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterfactual_definiteness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schroedinger%27s_cat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigner%27s_friend

American physics grand old man John Archibald Wheeler said:
"No phenomenon is a phenomenon, until it is an Observed Phenomenon...!"
"We are participators in bringing into being, not only the near, but also the
far
away both in time and space! Symbolic representation of the Universe is
a
self-excited system brought into being by self-reference or auto-creation
by consciously selecting observers over an immensely long period of time...
Such a recursive-reflecting creative concept is similar to the endless series
of
receding reflections one sees in a pair of mirrors facing each others....”
Reference: J.A. Wheeler in Isham et al., eds., Quantum Gravity
(
Clarendon, Oxford, 1975), pgs. 564-565. (Edited Extract.)

"The path of the electron comes into existence, only when we observe it."
John S. Bell

“Observations not only disturb, what has to be measured, they produce it!
We compel [the electron] to assume a definite position! We - ourselves -
produce
the results of the measurements.” Pascual Jordan quoted by in:
Max Jammer: The Philosophy of Quantum Mechanics, Wiley, 1974 p. 161.

"Fundamental to contemporary Quantum Theory is the notion that there is
no
phenomenon until it is observed! This is known as the '
Observer Effect'.
The implications of the '
Observer Effect' are profound because, if true,
it
means that before anything can manifest in the physical universe it must
first be observed! This
Observer Effect clearly implies that all the physical
Universe
is the direct result of consciousness itself!" Alex Paterson.

The stuff of the world is mind-stuff.
(Eddington, The Nature of the Physical World)

The old dualism of mind and matter... seems likely to disappear ...
through substantial matter resolving itself into a creation and
manifestation of the mind.
(Jeans, The Mysterious Universe)

The only acceptable point of view appears to be the one that recognizes
both sides of reality—the quantitative and the qualitative, the physical
and the psychical—as compatible with each other, and can embrace them
simultaneously. (Pauli, Writings on Physics and Philosophy)

The conception of the objective reality of the elementary particles has
thus evaporated not into the cloud of some obscure new reality concept,
but into the transparent clarity of a mathematics that represents no longer
the behaviour of the particle but rather our knowledge of this behaviour.
(Heisenberg, The Representation of Nature in Contemporary Physics)


Further ramifications of no mind-observer-independent reality:
Do Physicists bid farewell to reality?
http://www.nature.com/news/2007/070416/full/news070416-9.html

Do we create the world just by looking at it? The Reality Tests:
http://seedmagazine.com/content/article/the_reality_tests/P3/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Zeilinger
http://www.quantum.at/zeilinger/
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Quantum enigma: The spooky interaction of mind and matter. (easy)
Physics encounters consciousness.

Bruce Rosenblum, Fred Kuttner

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Mind, Matter and Quantum Mechanics

Henry P. Stapp

Springer, 2009 - Science - 300 pages "Scientists other than quantum physicists

often fail to comprehend the enormity of the conceptual change wrought by quantum

theory in our basic conception of the nature of matter," writes Henry Stapp. Stapp

is a leading quantum physicist who has given particularly careful thought to the

implications of the theory that lies at the heart of modern physics. In this book,

which contains several of his key papers as well as new material, he focuses on the

problem of consciousness and explains how quantum mechanics allows causally

effective conscious thought to be combined in a natural way with the physical brain

made of neurons and atoms. The book is divided into four sections. The first consists

of an extended introduction. Key foundational and somewhat more technical papers

are included in the second part, together with a clear exposition of the "orthodox"

interpretation of quantum mechanics. The third part addresses, in a non-technical

fashion, the implications of the theory for some of the most profound questions that

mankind has contemplated: How does the world come to be just what it is and not

something else? How should humans view themselves in a quantum universe? What will

be the impact on society of the revised scientific image of the nature of man? The

final part contains a mathematical appendix for the specialist and a glossary of

important terms and ideas for the interested layman.

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Mindful universe:
Quantum mechanics and the participating observer

Henry P. Stapp

4 Reviews

Springer, 2007 - Science - 198 pages
The classical mechanistic idea of nature that prevailed in science during the
eighteenth and nineteenth centuries was an essentially mindless conception: the
physically described aspects of nature were asserted to be completely determined
by prior physically described aspects alone, with our conscious experiences entering
only passively. During the twentieth century the classical concepts were found to be
inadequate. In the new theory, quantum mechanics, our conscious experiences enter
into the dynamics in specified ways not fixed by the physically described aspects alone.
Consequences of this radical change in our understanding of the connection between
mind
and brain are described.

What is Mind?
https://What-Buddha-Said.net/drops/V/What_is_Mind.htm


Consciousness Causes Collapse:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mind%E2%80%93body_problem

Regarding "Consciousness causes Collapse" please see Radin's 2012 experiments:
Consciousness and the double-slit interference pattern: Six experiments
PHYSICS ESSAYS 25, 2 (2012) Dean Radin at al.
https://What-Buddha-Said.net/library/pdfs/Consciousness.causes.Collapse.Radin.2012.pdf

 


 

Dr. Henry Stapp - Beyond the Mind-Body Problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCdeiwmQgUk



 

The Extended Mind: Recent Experimental Evidence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnA8GUtXpXY&NR=1

Conscious Observation induces the Object!


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